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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:23:00 -
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I suspect that many prospective CSM candidates have been scared off by the idea of surrendering their anonymity. There is no good reason to force people who genuinely wish to help the EVE community to expose themselves to RL harassment and other nonsense over a video game.
i.e. supported "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.03.31 11:52:00 -
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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:Kilylol wrote: Surely you must have missed the part of the OP where he says that only CCP must know the names(I feel you bro, reading is hard).
Oh, that's right! Nobody at CCP EVER leaks any information, ever. Just ask Hilmar about that................
So you don't support this because their names might be leaked?
Are you forgetting that such a leak would place CCP in a fairly precarious position? "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 12:13:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:I read your post, very interesting analysis and opinion and I was clearly about to /sign.
Then I just remembered Prencleeve video, the RL threats and comments about Alex RL information and I can't sign any more.
By the way, CSM candidates should not even have to present themselves IRL for this very same reason. Does CCP guard or another CCP member tells you his RL name, tells you his RL life CV whatsoever? -no, and if they do it's a big mistake.
This is an internet video game, where internet anonymous nerds do whatever/whatsoever from killing pixels to act like pedos, threat people RL, bullie, have racist comments more often than they say hello to someone else, girls don't exist or they're gay/played by men, most guys are gay, and so on and so forth.
So because of the above, I can't agree with you, this can take proportions that go beyond reason.
Huh?
Currently, to run for the CSM, you are required to divulge your RL identity not only to CCP, but to the entire community. The idea is that CSM candidates should not be required to do so (except to CCP, of course, but this is already done through your account info) "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.03.31 12:35:00 -
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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:Wow. The amount of Goons and other NullBears posting as opposed to 'Carebears' is again very revealing.
Something is fishy.
What is it about this proposal that you are opposed to? "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:22:00 -
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Aylleen wrote:I agree, but I would like to amend your proposal. Any CSM delegate - or an EVE Online player for that matter - that discloses personal information pertaining another player, or if he or she commits an act - both in-game or OCC - that is illegal (like inciting to suicide), should be banned permanently. Reporting the crime to authorities by CCP should be mandatory.
That is already the case. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.03.31 17:14:00 -
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Amy Garzan wrote:Signed
Anyone whos ever heard of the one corp who went to a dudes house just to kill his power to kill his supercap needs to sign this (this isnt a made up story)
That didn't actually happen - Mittens refused to dig up the dude's address for RA. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:58:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:You know the risks of losing the anonymity shield going in.
And what justifies that risk? "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:12:00 -
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Uronksur Suth wrote:I don't support this. If someone wants to be among the few representing the entire player-base, and have such perks as an all-expense paid trip to Iceland, they can do us the courtesy of revealing such basic information as their name and country of residence. For me, it is more the principle here. I could maybe get behind striking their country, but not their name. I think running for CSM should involve opening up to the playerbase enough to share their real name.
I wouldn't call attending meetings in Iceland, a country whose only real attraction for tourism is fishing, a "perk." "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:57:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:More or less,
Note that its goon supporters and pets/alts that are pushing this.
It also opens the door for fraud against the voting players.
no it does not
we get it you want to harass CSM members IRL when they support things you don't like but that doesn't quite help your case Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.02 19:41:00 -
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Aineko Macx wrote:Way to cherry pick the arguments you reply to... At least you implicitly agreed that it would be impossible to guarantee a candidates anonymity.
Now onto the argument you did reply to: It doesn't suit your proposal, but for most part the line between game in RL is a blurry one. And unless you see it from a RPing perspective, the CSM are RL player representatives, not of in-game characters. In fact, apart from their interest focus, very little of the CSM is not RL.
Also, tell me more about your paranoia about people that would prefer representatives to drop anonymity. Do you think it doesn't add accountability or do you not want that? The latter is only of concern for people that intend to **** people off, in which case you shouldn't be in the CSM (or do you disagree with that as well?).
tell me more about accountability and anonymity, npc alt Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |
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